Aquaponics system design help. - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T10:55:59Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design-help?feed=yes&xn_auth=noConsidering that your project…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-12-02:4778851:Comment:4203492012-12-02T02:28:33.638ZDavid Palmerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DavidPalmer
<p>Considering that your project would go directly to helping a non-profit organization to feed people, you may be able to find other ways to get materials and at better prices than normally can be purchased at a hardware store. Also, you might find that there are handy people around who would be interested in volunteering.</p>
<p>Look around first and see if you can find a charitable group, like a soup kitchen, that could benefit from your efforts. There's nothing like interviewing people to…</p>
<p>Considering that your project would go directly to helping a non-profit organization to feed people, you may be able to find other ways to get materials and at better prices than normally can be purchased at a hardware store. Also, you might find that there are handy people around who would be interested in volunteering.</p>
<p>Look around first and see if you can find a charitable group, like a soup kitchen, that could benefit from your efforts. There's nothing like interviewing people to get a real-world understanding of the actual challenges that shape a successful solution. They also would know of resources or contacts that would provide some assistance.</p>
<p>Also, lets see if I can get something started here in Portland Oregon. I'd like to do a trial run of a small AP system to help collect data. This information can be used to make a proposal for a larger system that would benefit from economies of scale.</p>
<p>Dave<br/> <br/> <cite>Kent Schneider said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design-help?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A420073&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment420073"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p class="MsoNormal"> As far as I can tell no system produces more than it takes in. Well, except trout fry with a conversion ratio of .75:1 :-D That would be a fun challenge. Yes I could design it and could even use it in my final project in May where I have to do a business plan as a final. Building and demonstrating it is dependent on resources I can get through the college and what is required to build it. </p>
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</blockquote> As far as I can tell no s…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-12-02:4778851:Comment:4200732012-12-02T02:04:08.237ZKent Schneiderhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KentSchneider
<p class="MsoNormal"> As far as I can tell no system produces more than it takes in. Well, except trout fry with a conversion ratio of .75:1 :-D That would be a fun challenge. Yes I could design it and could even use it in my final project in May where I have to do a business plan as a final. Building and demonstrating it is dependent on resources I can get through the college and what is required to build it. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> As far as I can tell no system produces more than it takes in. Well, except trout fry with a conversion ratio of .75:1 :-D That would be a fun challenge. Yes I could design it and could even use it in my final project in May where I have to do a business plan as a final. Building and demonstrating it is dependent on resources I can get through the college and what is required to build it. </p> I like that.
However, lets…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-12-01:4778851:Comment:4202402012-12-01T22:23:49.921ZDavid Palmerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DavidPalmer
<p>I like that. <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"></img></a> </p>
<p>However, lets up the stakes a little. </p>
<p>Can you design and demonstrate a mobile aquaponics system that is suitable for an inner-city soup kitchen? I'm sure you can track down a soup kitchen in your local area and ask them what they would need from a garden to supply their kitchen with vegetables and fish. Maybe there is some open space in the city that isn't being used for a few years and can host the garden. …</p>
<p>I like that. <a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a> </p>
<p>However, lets up the stakes a little. </p>
<p>Can you design and demonstrate a mobile aquaponics system that is suitable for an inner-city soup kitchen? I'm sure you can track down a soup kitchen in your local area and ask them what they would need from a garden to supply their kitchen with vegetables and fish. Maybe there is some open space in the city that isn't being used for a few years and can host the garden. Everything is moved as needed to locations that can host it, but still near the soup kitchen.</p>
<p>Consider the design successful if the mobile garden can produce more than it takes in. That is compare using the funds for purchasing food or for raising fish and growing vegetables with available non-arable land.</p>
<p>Up to the challenge? If so, lets be friends and discuss designs.</p>
<p>Dave<br/> <br/> <cite>Kent Schneider said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design-help?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A420224&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment420224"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>It is the type of commercial system where an engineer and a wise old aquaponics farmer would shake hands on.</p>
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</blockquote> It is the type of commercial…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-12-01:4778851:Comment:4202242012-12-01T14:00:03.210ZKent Schneiderhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KentSchneider
<p>It is the type of commercial system where an engineer and a wise old aquaponics farmer would shake hands on.</p>
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<p><cite>David Palmer said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design-help?page=1&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A420037&x=1#4778851Comment420037"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>What do you mean by "successful large scale commercial system"?…</p>
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<p>It is the type of commercial system where an engineer and a wise old aquaponics farmer would shake hands on.</p>
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<p><cite>David Palmer said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-system-design-help?page=1&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A420037&x=1#4778851Comment420037"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>What do you mean by "successful large scale commercial system"?</p>
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</blockquote> What do you mean by "successf…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-12-01:4778851:Comment:4200372012-12-01T06:46:29.525ZDavid Palmerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DavidPalmer
<p>What do you mean by "successful large scale commercial system"?</p>
<p>This paper might help understand what it might mean to build a cost effective system,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEUQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdspace.mit.edu%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F1721.1%2F67227%2F759095898.pdf%3F...1&ei=M6e5UL_fM-O1iwKTwIHgBA&usg=AFQjCNH5TMOx2WqD3SJEz5eVhhp3BY8_yg" target="_blank">Cost Benefit Analysis…</a></p>
<p>What do you mean by "successful large scale commercial system"?</p>
<p>This paper might help understand what it might mean to build a cost effective system,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEUQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdspace.mit.edu%2Fbitstream%2Fhandle%2F1721.1%2F67227%2F759095898.pdf%3F...1&ei=M6e5UL_fM-O1iwKTwIHgBA&usg=AFQjCNH5TMOx2WqD3SJEz5eVhhp3BY8_yg" target="_blank">Cost Benefit Analysis of Aquaponic Systems</a></p>
<p>It also has references to many papers on how to build and design aquaponic systems.</p> Here is a document of the UVI…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-12-01:4778851:Comment:4201262012-12-01T05:56:40.580ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
<p>Here is a document of the UVI system - the most proven commercial system out there with decades of research behind it... <a href="https://srac.tamu.edu/index.cfm/event/getFactSheet/whichfactsheet/105/" target="_blank">https://srac.tamu.edu/index.cfm/event/getFactSheet/whichfactsheet/105/</a> Most commercial systems out there are based on Dr. Rakocy's work. Everything you need for the system is included in this doc and many of the filtration techniques discussed should be well known to you…</p>
<p>Here is a document of the UVI system - the most proven commercial system out there with decades of research behind it... <a href="https://srac.tamu.edu/index.cfm/event/getFactSheet/whichfactsheet/105/" target="_blank">https://srac.tamu.edu/index.cfm/event/getFactSheet/whichfactsheet/105/</a> Most commercial systems out there are based on Dr. Rakocy's work. Everything you need for the system is included in this doc and many of the filtration techniques discussed should be well known to you given that you have an aquaculture background. Of course it does help to get some hands on experience to understand the design. Good luck with your adventure!</p>