Aquaponics, Hydroponics, or Vermiponics? - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T07:56:23Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268614&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI would be interested in visi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-22:4778851:Comment:2686142011-12-22T04:57:52.325ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
<p>I would be interested in visiting some of them too, I cover local stuff when I can at <a href="http://www.aquaponicsnyc.com" target="_blank">www.aquaponicsnyc.com</a> and also on my facebook page <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaponics-NYC/29250348744246" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaponics-NYC/29250348744246</a>. I have a youtube channel too but I haven't made any videos besides what I'm doing. Let me know when your going to be in town and we can plan out the…</p>
<p>I would be interested in visiting some of them too, I cover local stuff when I can at <a href="http://www.aquaponicsnyc.com" target="_blank">www.aquaponicsnyc.com</a> and also on my facebook page <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaponics-NYC/29250348744246" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaponics-NYC/29250348744246</a>. I have a youtube channel too but I haven't made any videos besides what I'm doing. Let me know when your going to be in town and we can plan out the tour.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268612&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268612"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jonathan and TCLynx, </p>
<p>I have a list of about 5-7 projects i am visiting in NY, it all depends on the week i will be there.</p>
<p>Few of them are actualy projects in schools, so i am sure it will be very good for your project.</p>
<p>adding the guys you know and the projects i have listed, we could have an aquaponic tour... let me know and perhaps we can get to plan it..</p>
<p>are you working with tilapia? there are some friends in NY that sell the fingerlings.</p>
<p>thanks and best</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268093&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268312"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I am cycling my system now, it is a small 100 liter fish tank and 100 liter grow bed which is a prototype for what i want to put into a school across the street. It may be the only one in Manhattan but I'm not sure. There are folks in the bronx and brooklyn who have systems. The largest is about 45 minutes north of the city called Cabbage Hill Farms. I'd be glad to show you what I've done and learned along my journey.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268167&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268167"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jonathan...</p>
<p>that is correct... i realized it after i posted and i couldn't figure out how to edit it..</p>
<p>By the way, i will be in NY in few weeks for some days visiting some hydroponics and aquaponics.. i noticed you are there... do you have a system running?</p>
<p>I am heading to Australia to learn more about it then i am heading back to this lands...</p>
<p>let me know and we can share thoughts while being in NY.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Pablo</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268166&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268166"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's the same one I posted, its a small aquaponics world isn't it.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A267998&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment267998"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..</p>
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I ha…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-22:4778851:Comment:2686122011-12-22T04:21:16.988ZPablohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/greenpvt
<p>Hi Jonathan and TCLynx, </p>
<p>I have a list of about 5-7 projects i am visiting in NY, it all depends on the week i will be there.</p>
<p>Few of them are actualy projects in schools, so i am sure it will be very good for your project.</p>
<p>adding the guys you know and the projects i have listed, we could have an aquaponic tour... let me know and perhaps we can get to plan it..</p>
<p>are you working with tilapia? there are some friends in NY that sell the fingerlings.</p>
<p>thanks and…</p>
<p>Hi Jonathan and TCLynx, </p>
<p>I have a list of about 5-7 projects i am visiting in NY, it all depends on the week i will be there.</p>
<p>Few of them are actualy projects in schools, so i am sure it will be very good for your project.</p>
<p>adding the guys you know and the projects i have listed, we could have an aquaponic tour... let me know and perhaps we can get to plan it..</p>
<p>are you working with tilapia? there are some friends in NY that sell the fingerlings.</p>
<p>thanks and best</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268093&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268312"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I am cycling my system now, it is a small 100 liter fish tank and 100 liter grow bed which is a prototype for what i want to put into a school across the street. It may be the only one in Manhattan but I'm not sure. There are folks in the bronx and brooklyn who have systems. The largest is about 45 minutes north of the city called Cabbage Hill Farms. I'd be glad to show you what I've done and learned along my journey.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268167&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268167"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jonathan...</p>
<p>that is correct... i realized it after i posted and i couldn't figure out how to edit it..</p>
<p>By the way, i will be in NY in few weeks for some days visiting some hydroponics and aquaponics.. i noticed you are there... do you have a system running?</p>
<p>I am heading to Australia to learn more about it then i am heading back to this lands...</p>
<p>let me know and we can share thoughts while being in NY.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Pablo</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268166&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268166"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's the same one I posted, its a small aquaponics world isn't it.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A267998&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment267998"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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</blockquote> Oh yeah, that is up in Yonker…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-22:4778851:Comment:2684222011-12-22T01:53:20.353ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
<p>Oh yeah, that is up in Yonkers now which is just north of the city. It's a quick train ride up there.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, that is up in Yonkers now which is just north of the city. It's a quick train ride up there.</p> There is the Science Barge in…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-21:4778851:Comment:2680932011-12-21T23:40:45.823ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>There is the Science Barge in NY</p>
<p>There is the Science Barge in NY</p> I am cycling my system now, i…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-21:4778851:Comment:2683122011-12-21T22:17:36.437ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
<p>I am cycling my system now, it is a small 100 liter fish tank and 100 liter grow bed which is a prototype for what i want to put into a school across the street. It may be the only one in Manhattan but I'm not sure. There are folks in the bronx and brooklyn who have systems. The largest is about 45 minutes north of the city called Cabbage Hill Farms. I'd be glad to show you what I've done and learned along my journey.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>greenpvt said:…</cite></p>
<p>I am cycling my system now, it is a small 100 liter fish tank and 100 liter grow bed which is a prototype for what i want to put into a school across the street. It may be the only one in Manhattan but I'm not sure. There are folks in the bronx and brooklyn who have systems. The largest is about 45 minutes north of the city called Cabbage Hill Farms. I'd be glad to show you what I've done and learned along my journey.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268167&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268167"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jonathan...</p>
<p>that is correct... i realized it after i posted and i couldn't figure out how to edit it..</p>
<p>By the way, i will be in NY in few weeks for some days visiting some hydroponics and aquaponics.. i noticed you are there... do you have a system running?</p>
<p>I am heading to Australia to learn more about it then i am heading back to this lands...</p>
<p>let me know and we can share thoughts while being in NY.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Pablo</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268166&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268166"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's the same one I posted, its a small aquaponics world isn't it.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A267998&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment267998"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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that is correc…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-21:4778851:Comment:2681672011-12-21T19:10:39.175ZPablohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/greenpvt
<p>Hi Jonathan...</p>
<p>that is correct... i realized it after i posted and i couldn't figure out how to edit it..</p>
<p>By the way, i will be in NY in few weeks for some days visiting some hydroponics and aquaponics.. i noticed you are there... do you have a system running?</p>
<p>I am heading to Australia to learn more about it then i am heading back to this lands...</p>
<p>let me know and we can share thoughts while being in NY.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Pablo</p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jonathan…</cite></p>
<p>Hi Jonathan...</p>
<p>that is correct... i realized it after i posted and i couldn't figure out how to edit it..</p>
<p>By the way, i will be in NY in few weeks for some days visiting some hydroponics and aquaponics.. i noticed you are there... do you have a system running?</p>
<p>I am heading to Australia to learn more about it then i am heading back to this lands...</p>
<p>let me know and we can share thoughts while being in NY.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Pablo</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jonathan Kadish said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A268166&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment268166"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's the same one I posted, its a small aquaponics world isn't it.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A267998&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment267998"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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</blockquote> That's the same one I posted,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-21:4778851:Comment:2681662011-12-21T19:05:57.540ZJonathan Kadish NYC AA Chairhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonathanKadish
<p>That's the same one I posted, its a small aquaponics world isn't it.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A267998&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment267998"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..…</p>
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<p>That's the same one I posted, its a small aquaponics world isn't it.<br/> <br/> <cite>greenpvt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/aquaponics-hydroponics-or-vermiponics?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A267998&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment267998"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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</blockquote> Hi Guys.. i came across your…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-21:4778851:Comment:2679982011-12-21T18:48:52.842ZPablohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/greenpvt
<p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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<p>Hi Guys.. i came across your discussion and i thought this video could be useful..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDwumVaNko&feature=youtu.be</a></p>
<p></p> Since the natural tendency of…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-19:4778851:Comment:2671122011-12-19T01:41:29.522ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Since the natural tendency of the bio-ponic nitrogen cycle is going to be to lower pH over time, you may not need to worry so much about adjusting the wood ash mix with acid since you can use it to buffer pH up. (leached wood ash is how they used to make Lye or KOH) And in the big Aquaponic operations they normally alternate using KOH (potassium hydroxide) and COH (calcium hydroxide) to buffer pH up when it drops too low.</p>
<p>Since the natural tendency of the bio-ponic nitrogen cycle is going to be to lower pH over time, you may not need to worry so much about adjusting the wood ash mix with acid since you can use it to buffer pH up. (leached wood ash is how they used to make Lye or KOH) And in the big Aquaponic operations they normally alternate using KOH (potassium hydroxide) and COH (calcium hydroxide) to buffer pH up when it drops too low.</p> TC...I totally agree, and am…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-12-19:4778851:Comment:2671072011-12-19T01:10:56.610ZVlad Jovanovichttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/VladJovanovic
<p>TC...I totally agree, and am aware that EC and/or TDS measurements are not going to be a good indicator since it seems that organic-hydro relies on bacterial activity in the nutrient solution to free up many of the nutrients and make them available to the plants. Figured I'd add EC readings though in addition to the standard set of NH3/N4 - NO2 - NO3 - pH - Temps anyways (just to see)...</p>
<p>But you're right...my pH meter, gram scale, NO3 test and measuring cup will probably tell me more…</p>
<p>TC...I totally agree, and am aware that EC and/or TDS measurements are not going to be a good indicator since it seems that organic-hydro relies on bacterial activity in the nutrient solution to free up many of the nutrients and make them available to the plants. Figured I'd add EC readings though in addition to the standard set of NH3/N4 - NO2 - NO3 - pH - Temps anyways (just to see)...</p>
<p>But you're right...my pH meter, gram scale, NO3 test and measuring cup will probably tell me more than an EC meter...(maybe someone, someday will come up with some sort of algorithm for hydro-organic or some such thing to make an EC/TDS reading relevant, though I really don't see how)...</p>
<p>I guess I just want to set this up in a controlled and orderly manner, test for as many things as I can, and see what I can draw out of it? Not exactly furthering the field science to be sure. I'd like to get a potassium test kit and use it in conjunction with the pH meter and EC meter as I haven't a clue as to how many grams of hardwood ash to add to 10 liters of water (right now I'm kinda wingin' it, adding enough to drive the pH of distilled water up into the high 8's then lower the pH with Muratic acid then diluting that to what ever I feel is safe/enough on that particular day... Needless to say, I'm not real happy with this situation as it stands and would like to get a better handle on it, as I feel that would ash could be a wonderful (and sustainable, for those of us that use wood burning stoves:) source of potassium. But as of now, am absolutely in the dark as to how much to use..? </p>
<p> ...I'd like to do a little more with my Arduino as well, but the programming end is going super slow for me. So far I can control a stupid wall outlet, a mains device coupled with relay (lights, fans blahblahblah), and receive temp and humidity readings every second from a sensor, but that's about it...Not exactly high tech impressive, but I'm workin' on it :)</p>
<p>I would like to find an CO2 sensor to couple with the Arduino to measure CO2 in PPM's so that I'm not flying blind with my yeast and sugar CO2 generator, just to see how well that works too...</p>
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