Advice with design plans for greenhouse - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T17:25:08Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/advice-with-design-plans-for-greenhouse?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A317754&feed=yes&xn_auth=noCool, start a thread on your…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-25:4778851:Comment:3256062012-04-25T02:11:26.449ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Cool, start a thread on your heater so you can post the pictures and results with it.<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a></p>
<p>Cool, start a thread on your heater so you can post the pictures and results with it.<a style="cursor: pointer;"><img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Smile.gif"/></a></p> TC I thought I'd try somethin…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-25:4778851:Comment:3256052012-04-25T02:07:23.098ZPatrickhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Patrick301
TC I thought I'd try something, I uploaded a pic of a solar water heater I started building last night. I think when I'm done with it it'll have 4 reflective sides like a solar cooker. I'll start posting numbers when it's operational to see if it might be theasable to have a 1-200 gallon or more tank just for the heat sink powered by 1 solar panel with no battery. Then it will only run when it's hot and not circulate cold into the system at night.
TC I thought I'd try something, I uploaded a pic of a solar water heater I started building last night. I think when I'm done with it it'll have 4 reflective sides like a solar cooker. I'll start posting numbers when it's operational to see if it might be theasable to have a 1-200 gallon or more tank just for the heat sink powered by 1 solar panel with no battery. Then it will only run when it's hot and not circulate cold into the system at night. But recall what I said about…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-10:4778851:Comment:3182402012-04-10T00:50:14.504ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>But recall what I said about the ground being a huge thermal mass, are you really going to heat up the earth to keep a couple tanks of fish warm enough?</p>
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<p>Research the ground temperatures and your proposed fish before you ground couple. If your desired temperatures are warmer than the average ground temperature at your location, then you would be better off insulating and using water tanks or other thermal mass inside the insulated envelope.</p>
<p>But recall what I said about the ground being a huge thermal mass, are you really going to heat up the earth to keep a couple tanks of fish warm enough?</p>
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<p>Research the ground temperatures and your proposed fish before you ground couple. If your desired temperatures are warmer than the average ground temperature at your location, then you would be better off insulating and using water tanks or other thermal mass inside the insulated envelope.</p> Now that you mention it, I gu…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-09:4778851:Comment:3179722012-04-09T14:31:54.446ZPatrickhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Patrick301
Now that you mention it, I guess it wouldn't be a big deal at all to put 2 of those tanks against the wall on the other side in the basement. That would insure significantly warmer temps in the winter.
Now that you mention it, I guess it wouldn't be a big deal at all to put 2 of those tanks against the wall on the other side in the basement. That would insure significantly warmer temps in the winter. Thanks for the replies TCLynx…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-09:4778851:Comment:3180222012-04-09T14:25:26.567ZPatrickhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Patrick301
Thanks for the replies TCLynx, it's funny after I posted this yesterday I stumbled upon someone else in KC with the same idea from four years ago on a different site and you were there too. I still haven't decided what type of fish. I was thinking about tilapia in the 2 eastern tanks and catfish in the others but am open to suggestions. I'm looking for a good balance, I definitely don't want to have to use submersible heating. The 2 heating elements for the house are on the other side of the…
Thanks for the replies TCLynx, it's funny after I posted this yesterday I stumbled upon someone else in KC with the same idea from four years ago on a different site and you were there too. I still haven't decided what type of fish. I was thinking about tilapia in the 2 eastern tanks and catfish in the others but am open to suggestions. I'm looking for a good balance, I definitely don't want to have to use submersible heating. The 2 heating elements for the house are on the other side of the wall from the east side which are a LP and a wood burning backup furnace. So I'm thinking with this plan the green house would basically be inside and if I needed to I could just leave the door open and the ambient from the wood furnace would heat that half pretty well. I was considering running some passive phase change elements (copper pipe) under the tanks if it wasn't enough. Similar to how we cool servers with advanced heat sinks. What are your ground temperat…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-09:4778851:Comment:3177572012-04-09T12:56:56.112ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>What are your ground temperatures and what is the proposed fish?</p>
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<p>See earth contact and geothermal are great if the temperature you are going for is matched with your ground temperatures. But if you are hoping for the ground contact to help while raising tilapia but your average ground temp is like 58 F, well then it won't be so much help because you will still need additional heat or to use heat pumps to elevate the temperature since tilapia won't thrive till the water temp…</p>
<p>What are your ground temperatures and what is the proposed fish?</p>
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<p>See earth contact and geothermal are great if the temperature you are going for is matched with your ground temperatures. But if you are hoping for the ground contact to help while raising tilapia but your average ground temp is like 58 F, well then it won't be so much help because you will still need additional heat or to use heat pumps to elevate the temperature since tilapia won't thrive till the water temp is above 70. (Tilapia survive between 55-70 F but they are not eating or growing much) So choose a fish that will still be eating at your ground temperature and you will likely be much better off. </p>
<p>The ground is a huge thermal mass, not an insulator. If you are trying to maintain a temperature above the ground temperature and you have a lot of ground contact, that huge thermal mass will be wicking the heat away to warm itself and since the ground is huge you might not want to pay that much in heating to bring it up to your desired temperature so it would be better if your desired temperature was in line with what the earth in your location has to offer.</p> You can post pictures directl…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-04-09:4778851:Comment:3177542012-04-09T12:50:48.314ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>You can post pictures directly into your posts by using the IMG button (it's the one right next to the link button on top of the post box.)</p>
<p>Like this</p>
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<p>You can post pictures directly into your posts by using the IMG button (it's the one right next to the link button on top of the post box.)</p>
<p>Like this</p>
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