Advice on Poly Tank FT Requested - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T12:25:35Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/advice-on-poly-tank-ft-requested?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A357108&feed=yes&xn_auth=noA round tank structurally mak…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-10:4778851:Comment:3608192012-07-10T22:39:47.699ZChris Carrhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Chris954
<p>A round tank structurally makes the most sense and is the most cost effective if you are looking at 1000+ gallons or any size really. I think you can get away with building a box if it's 300 gallons or less but it isn't worth it if you can get an IBC or 2 even. Not to knock anyone's work specifically but I think building a square tank that's structurally sound gets some DIY'ers over their heads. Any bulge in a tank is very bad long term. Itll have to be repaired eventually and less likely at…</p>
<p>A round tank structurally makes the most sense and is the most cost effective if you are looking at 1000+ gallons or any size really. I think you can get away with building a box if it's 300 gallons or less but it isn't worth it if you can get an IBC or 2 even. Not to knock anyone's work specifically but I think building a square tank that's structurally sound gets some DIY'ers over their heads. Any bulge in a tank is very bad long term. Itll have to be repaired eventually and less likely at your convenience.</p>
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<p>I really like TCs DIY round tank design. I like pictures so I drew a diagram on this thread to make sure I understood it correctly:</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/advice-on-poly-tank-ft-requested?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A360606#4778851Comment360535"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well for the durascrim, they don't advertize the retail price on the liner in anything wider than 10' rolls so I don't know what a 15' by 100' roll would cost plus freight. I also don't know if they would sell a smaller piece of it.</p>
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<p>You can strap together cattle panels or horse panels you can get from tractor supply to use with the Quick tank liner. I might just recommend adding a layer of tarp for sun protection and perhaps a layer of the 1/4" blueboard to help protect the liner and there you go, having a fitted tank liner definitely would make the fence panel tank easier to do.</p>
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<p>Now if you are really wanting to do a rectangular space, I'd probably either go for IBC tanks or download Friendlies fiberglass tank manual and build them out of wood and fiberglass. Liner and lumber just doesn't seem worth it to me most of the time anymore.</p>
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</blockquote> Well for the durascrim, they…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-10:4778851:Comment:3605352012-07-10T17:37:45.262ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Well for the durascrim, they don't advertize the retail price on the liner in anything wider than 10' rolls so I don't know what a 15' by 100' roll would cost plus freight. I also don't know if they would sell a smaller piece of it.</p>
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<p>You can strap together cattle panels or horse panels you can get from tractor supply to use with the Quick tank liner. I might just recommend adding a layer of tarp for sun protection and perhaps a layer of the 1/4" blueboard to help protect the…</p>
<p>Well for the durascrim, they don't advertize the retail price on the liner in anything wider than 10' rolls so I don't know what a 15' by 100' roll would cost plus freight. I also don't know if they would sell a smaller piece of it.</p>
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<p>You can strap together cattle panels or horse panels you can get from tractor supply to use with the Quick tank liner. I might just recommend adding a layer of tarp for sun protection and perhaps a layer of the 1/4" blueboard to help protect the liner and there you go, having a fitted tank liner definitely would make the fence panel tank easier to do.</p>
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<p>Now if you are really wanting to do a rectangular space, I'd probably either go for IBC tanks or download Friendlies fiberglass tank manual and build them out of wood and fiberglass. Liner and lumber just doesn't seem worth it to me most of the time anymore.</p> A reinforced above ground swi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-10:4778851:Comment:3606062012-07-10T16:17:18.586ZDavidhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/CommunityAP
<p>A reinforced above ground swimming pool will last years when not exposed to direct sunlight if you need something large. I use an 8' 650 gallon non-reinforced pool on my CHOP/DWC. Total cost was $45 for the pool which includes pump and plumbing. Just be sure to remove the chlorine filter before use.</p>
<p>A reinforced above ground swimming pool will last years when not exposed to direct sunlight if you need something large. I use an 8' 650 gallon non-reinforced pool on my CHOP/DWC. Total cost was $45 for the pool which includes pump and plumbing. Just be sure to remove the chlorine filter before use.</p> TCLynx, I had another idea o…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-10:4778851:Comment:3605292012-07-10T15:48:23.534ZAquamaplehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MarkWrubel
<p>TCLynx, I had another idea of building a stong rectangular wood frame, using Duraskrim as a liner for a fish tank. I prefer a round FT, but I gotta do what I gotta do to get going. A rectangular tank would fit my building better, for now. Do you have any thoughts on that? I figure a 12'L x 4'6"H x 3'D FT would give me 1,077 gallons of fish tank to work with, taking into consideration a water level six inches below the top. It might end up cheaper, but would it serve me better, or…</p>
<p>TCLynx, I had another idea of building a stong rectangular wood frame, using Duraskrim as a liner for a fish tank. I prefer a round FT, but I gotta do what I gotta do to get going. A rectangular tank would fit my building better, for now. Do you have any thoughts on that? I figure a 12'L x 4'6"H x 3'D FT would give me 1,077 gallons of fish tank to work with, taking into consideration a water level six inches below the top. It might end up cheaper, but would it serve me better, or worse?</p>
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<p>One thing I think I like about Duraskrim over the Quick Tank liner is the color. I'd be able to spot fish and problems much easier with a white liner vs the black QT liner.</p> Thanks, Ryan and George! I wa…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-10:4778851:Comment:3607082012-07-10T15:39:33.932ZAquamaplehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MarkWrubel
<p>Thanks, Ryan and George! I was thinking Reef Industries' Quick Tanks would be perfect for gettting my operation off the ground. I did call the regional sales manager and found out Reef Ind has discontinued that particular product. Their supplier for the "fence" that provided the structure for the liner raised their minimum order quantity to more than they were willing to pay. However, they said they would sell me the 10' diameter 2,055 gallon liner for $350. What do you think? Do you folks…</p>
<p>Thanks, Ryan and George! I was thinking Reef Industries' Quick Tanks would be perfect for gettting my operation off the ground. I did call the regional sales manager and found out Reef Ind has discontinued that particular product. Their supplier for the "fence" that provided the structure for the liner raised their minimum order quantity to more than they were willing to pay. However, they said they would sell me the 10' diameter 2,055 gallon liner for $350. What do you think? Do you folks have experience building a structure that size for a tank? I was thinking that the Quick Tank would do me for a couple years, until there was more income to support awesome permanent tanks. I'm still looking for a RotoMolding company near by.</p> 18,000 gallon tank, anyone? …tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3572042012-06-30T14:51:39.496ZGeorgehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Geoge
<p>18,000 gallon tank, anyone? Maybe the small one, 2,000 gallons?</p>
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<p>18,000 gallon tank, anyone? Maybe the small one, 2,000 gallons?</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.reefindustries.com/products.php?id=26&w=a&z=s" target="_blank">http://www.reefindustries.com/products.php?id=26&w=a&z=s</a></p> Google "quick tanks" . That's…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571302012-06-30T10:50:26.121ZRyan Chattersonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Ryan
Google "quick tanks" . That's about as cheap as you're going to find for large fish tanks... Mexico has been using them for years.
Google "quick tanks" . That's about as cheap as you're going to find for large fish tanks... Mexico has been using them for years. Do some searching for plastic…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571102012-06-30T02:40:09.636ZTCLynxhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TCLynx
<p>Do some searching for plastics companies, especially roto molding companies. Most of them probably make a few different aquaculture tanks. If you can find one that is not too far from you, contact them and see if there are any factory seconds you might get at a discount. Most of the factory seconds that they sell will just have something cosmetically wrong with them like scratches or the color wasn't quite right, the ones that are not structurally sound they usually…</p>
<p>Do some searching for plastics companies, especially roto molding companies. Most of them probably make a few different aquaculture tanks. If you can find one that is not too far from you, contact them and see if there are any factory seconds you might get at a discount. Most of the factory seconds that they sell will just have something cosmetically wrong with them like scratches or the color wasn't quite right, the ones that are not structurally sound they usually re-grind.</p>
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<p>Oh and the white liner is durascrim which is great for rectangular troughs but I don't think you are going to manage to make a round tank with it. The liner and fence panel tank I made used EPDM pond liner and has lots of folds or pleats to make it into a round tank.</p> TCL made a large tank using a…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571082012-06-30T02:35:37.887ZGeorgehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/Geoge
<p>TCL made a large tank using a liner. Perhaps she can link you to some info.</p>
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<p>I like my round tank and it was expensive. I don't regret buying it.</p>
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<p>If you stand the used tank on end and cut the other end off, you'll have a round tank. You probably would not want to make it more than 5 feet deep, I would think. I wouldn't take the plunge on that one just yet, not at that price. Keep thinking.</p>
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<p>TCL made a large tank using a liner. Perhaps she can link you to some info.</p>
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<p>I like my round tank and it was expensive. I don't regret buying it.</p>
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<p>If you stand the used tank on end and cut the other end off, you'll have a round tank. You probably would not want to make it more than 5 feet deep, I would think. I wouldn't take the plunge on that one just yet, not at that price. Keep thinking.</p>
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<p></p> I know, I know... But tanks t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-30:4778851:Comment:3571032012-06-30T02:10:41.502ZAquamaplehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MarkWrubel
I know, I know... But tanks that size are SO expensive! I got a quote for a 10' diameter 6' tall fiberglass tank that was over $2,000! I'm just trying to come up with a more cost effective solution.<br />
Slight redirect: as an alternative, what do you folks think about that white liner stuff Sylvia is selling now, in comparison? It seems it would be hard to get that stuff to conform to a round container. It seems like fish would be less stressed in a round container.
I know, I know... But tanks that size are SO expensive! I got a quote for a 10' diameter 6' tall fiberglass tank that was over $2,000! I'm just trying to come up with a more cost effective solution.<br />
Slight redirect: as an alternative, what do you folks think about that white liner stuff Sylvia is selling now, in comparison? It seems it would be hard to get that stuff to conform to a round container. It seems like fish would be less stressed in a round container.