A bug problem - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T22:09:30Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bug-problem?groupUrl=mauiaquaponics&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A166173&groupId=4778851%3AGroup%3A35911&feed=yes&xn_auth=noStopped by Ohana Greenhouse &…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-23:4778851:Comment:3095882012-03-23T00:29:50.469ZJim Hallhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimHall
Stopped by Ohana Greenhouse & they had the big gallon, (I think) size for $25, much more than I could use in awhile. Anyone want to split a bottle?<br></br>
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<cite>Rebecca B said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/a-bug-problem?groupUrl=aquaponicsassociationofmaui&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A308808&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment308814"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Another option is Maxicrop Plus Iron from Amazon. 1 liter is…</p>
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Stopped by Ohana Greenhouse & they had the big gallon, (I think) size for $25, much more than I could use in awhile. Anyone want to split a bottle?<br/>
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<cite>Rebecca B said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/a-bug-problem?groupUrl=aquaponicsassociationofmaui&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A308808&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment308814"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Another option is Maxicrop Plus Iron from Amazon. 1 liter is $8.99. I think the dose is 1 tablespoon per 250 gallons.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/Maxicrop-1-Liter-Seaweed-Plus-Iron/dp/B0001YC468/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1332272137&sr=1-1" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Maxicrop-1-Liter-Seaweed-Plus-Iron/dp/B0001YC...</a></p>
<p>Iron deficiency shows as yellow leaves with green veins. Nitrogen deficiency is lower leaves turn yellow as the plant transfers the nitrogen to the growing part of the plant.</p>
<p>There's a two part pdf called "Diseases, Deficiencies, and Toxicities in Plants."</p>
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</blockquote> I'll check today, but the yel…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-20:4778851:Comment:3088252012-03-20T22:38:36.604ZJim Hallhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimHall
I'll check today, but the yellow leaves & green veins is the look.
I'll check today, but the yellow leaves & green veins is the look. What is the pH of your system…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-20:4778851:Comment:3087232012-03-20T19:48:46.139ZRebecca Bhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RebeccaBranham
<p>What is the pH of your system?</p>
<p>An iron deficiency can occur because the fish use up all of the iron in their food and there is none left for the plants---or because the pH is high and there is a lock out of the iron.</p>
<p>What is the pH of your system?</p>
<p>An iron deficiency can occur because the fish use up all of the iron in their food and there is none left for the plants---or because the pH is high and there is a lock out of the iron.</p> Another option is Maxicrop Pl…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-20:4778851:Comment:3088142012-03-20T19:45:15.935ZRebecca Bhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RebeccaBranham
<p>Another option is Maxicrop Plus Iron from Amazon. 1 liter is $8.99. I think the dose is 1 tablespoon per 250 gallons.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Maxicrop-1-Liter-Seaweed-Plus-Iron/dp/B0001YC468/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1332272137&sr=1-1" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Maxicrop-1-Liter-Seaweed-Plus-Iron/dp/B0001YC468/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1332272137&sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>Iron deficiency shows as yellow leaves with green veins.…</p>
<p>Another option is Maxicrop Plus Iron from Amazon. 1 liter is $8.99. I think the dose is 1 tablespoon per 250 gallons.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Maxicrop-1-Liter-Seaweed-Plus-Iron/dp/B0001YC468/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1332272137&sr=1-1" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Maxicrop-1-Liter-Seaweed-Plus-Iron/dp/B0001YC468/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1332272137&sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>Iron deficiency shows as yellow leaves with green veins. Nitrogen deficiency is lower leaves turn yellow as the plant transfers the nitrogen to the growing part of the plant.</p>
<p>There's a two part pdf called "Diseases, Deficiencies, and Toxicities in Plants."</p> On Maui, HGP, but I couldn't…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-20:4778851:Comment:3088082012-03-20T18:49:15.450ZLarry Yonashirohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/LarryYonashiro
<p>On Maui, HGP, but I couldn't believe their price - $17.55 a pound, 5 pounds minimum. They were going to charge Patty $87.75 when she said stop. She checked with Waimalano Feed on Oahu and they sell it for about 1/2 the price including shipping, and I believe you can order 1lb. Call them at 808-259-5344 or 808-259-5797.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jim Hall said:…</cite></p>
<p>On Maui, HGP, but I couldn't believe their price - $17.55 a pound, 5 pounds minimum. They were going to charge Patty $87.75 when she said stop. She checked with Waimalano Feed on Oahu and they sell it for about 1/2 the price including shipping, and I believe you can order 1lb. Call them at 808-259-5344 or 808-259-5797.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim Hall said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/a-bug-problem?groupUrl=aquaponicsassociationofmaui&commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A308650&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#4778851Comment308671"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Where do you get it? Is the type in the garden supply ok? How do we determine how much to use? I'm sure I need in my system.<br/> <br/> <cite>Raychel A Watkins said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/a-bug-problem?groupUrl=aquaponicsassociationofmaui&#4778851Comment308650"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If iron is deficient then leaves turn yellow. You have to use chelated iron though. It is quite expensive.</p>
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</blockquote> Where do you get it? Is the t…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-20:4778851:Comment:3086712012-03-20T17:00:55.533ZJim Hallhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimHall
Where do you get it? Is the type in the garden supply ok? How do we determine how much to use? I'm sure I need in my system.<br/>
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<cite>Raychel A Watkins said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/a-bug-problem?groupUrl=aquaponicsassociationofmaui&#4778851Comment308650"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If iron is deficient then leaves turn yellow. You have to use chelated iron though. It is quite expensive.</p>
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Where do you get it? Is the type in the garden supply ok? How do we determine how much to use? I'm sure I need in my system.<br/>
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<cite>Raychel A Watkins said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://aquaponicscommunity.com/forum/topics/a-bug-problem?groupUrl=aquaponicsassociationofmaui&#4778851Comment308650"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If iron is deficient then leaves turn yellow. You have to use chelated iron though. It is quite expensive.</p>
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</blockquote> If iron is deficient then lea…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-20:4778851:Comment:3086502012-03-20T08:39:18.566ZRaychel A Watkinshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RaychelAWatkins
<p>If iron is deficient then leaves turn yellow. You have to use chelated iron though. It is quite expensive.</p>
<p>If iron is deficient then leaves turn yellow. You have to use chelated iron though. It is quite expensive.</p> Another suggestion on the whi…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3067932012-03-16T07:36:33.399ZJim Hallhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimHall
Another suggestion on the white moths that lay catepillar. My neighbor heard that dangling the little white price tags on the plants has the white moth bypassing the plant and thinking another moth is already there. I'm trying it on my Manoa lettuce right now.
Another suggestion on the white moths that lay catepillar. My neighbor heard that dangling the little white price tags on the plants has the white moth bypassing the plant and thinking another moth is already there. I'm trying it on my Manoa lettuce right now. My understanding is the bugs…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-16:4778851:Comment:3069722012-03-16T07:26:24.458ZJim Hallhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JimHall
My understanding is the bugs don't like the sugar that healthy plants produce. So whenn they are deficient they get weak. Spraying a compost tea that is made with sugar will drive them off and won't hurt the fish. He is a video of Evan Ryan at the Maui Farmers Union United doing a compost tea demo.…
My understanding is the bugs don't like the sugar that healthy plants produce. So whenn they are deficient they get weak. Spraying a compost tea that is made with sugar will drive them off and won't hurt the fish. He is a video of Evan Ryan at the Maui Farmers Union United doing a compost tea demo.<br />
<a href="http://magicmauifarms.blogspot.com/2011/08/evan-ryan-maui-farmers-union-does.html?m=1" target="_blank">http://magicmauifarms.blogspot.com/2011/08/evan-ryan-maui-farmers-union-does.html?m=1</a><br />
Peppers and sweet potatoes are my main white fly and aphid attractors. I just took out some nice looking potatoe plants. Leave and foliage was full and ornamentally nice, but the underside of the leave were coated with them.<br />
Going to just try to plant things less suseptible. My swiss chard got mildew after the rains and I had to cut it way back.<br />
Some of the yellowing and curlying with the basil and brocolli tell me there are deficiencies. I need a way to test & correct it. Garden shop has some basic test kits for ph and nutrients, but not sure it's worth the money if they are inaccurant. They are used for soils, mixed in water.Waterloo Fruit flies go for the fruit,…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-31:4778851:Comment:1661732011-07-31T01:06:02.151ZRebecca Bhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RebeccaBranham
<p>Fruit flies go for the fruit, right? This appears to be some kind of stem borer. I second Larry's suggestion; I've had help from the master gardener's at the college. Your good pictures will help them. </p>
<p><font size="2">"Growth tips wilted or entire plant wilted; small hole in plant stem at point where wilting begins.</font> <font size="2">Cut out borer, or destroy entire plant if affected at base of plant. Spray base of plant with suitable stomach poison insecticide in late spring and…</font></p>
<p>Fruit flies go for the fruit, right? This appears to be some kind of stem borer. I second Larry's suggestion; I've had help from the master gardener's at the college. Your good pictures will help them. </p>
<p><font size="2">"Growth tips wilted or entire plant wilted; small hole in plant stem at point where wilting begins.</font> <font size="2">Cut out borer, or destroy entire plant if affected at base of plant. Spray base of plant with suitable stomach poison insecticide in late spring and early summer as recommended by a qualified professional.</font> <a href="http://home.howstuffworks.com/cucumbers.htm" target="_self"><font size="2">Cucumber</font></a><font size="2">, Melon, <a href="http://home.howstuffworks.com/pumpkins.htm" target="_self">Pumpkin</a></font><font size="2">, Squash." Seems Neem is the only organic choice......</font></p>
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<p>Found this: "Squash Vine Borers. In the larvae or caterpillar stage, they are white with a dark head. They hatch from eggs laid in the soil by wasp-like moths, and then tunnel into stalks and leaf stems to feed. As they tunnel along eating the inner tissues of the plant, they push brown-colored waste out their entrance holes. The boring restricts the flow of water and nutrients to the plants and weakens their physical structure. In some cases, vigorous plants are able to survive the attack if the borer population is limited, but unfortunately, this is seldom the case.</p>
<p>Here are a number of organic methods for controlling them in the garden:</p>
<p>Trying to save infested plants:</p>
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<li>Carefully slit open infested stems and remove the borer with a tweezers, and pack dirt around the slit.</li>
<li>Use a medicine dropper to inject infested vines with parasitic nematodes.</li>
<li>At the first sign of trouble, cut out and destroy infected stems or whole plants to reduce spreading.</li>
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<p>To control them in the garden:</p>
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<li>Interplant garlic and onion with zucchini.</li>
<li>Plow crops under in the fall to destroy pupae.</li>
<li>Release trichogramma (tiny wasps used for biological control) to attack borer eggs in soil.</li>
<li>Use pheromone traps for adult moths.</li>
<li>Use the proper variety of parasitic nematode as mulch around plants.</li>
<li>Cover vines with floating row covers early in the season (you'll need to hand-pollinate).</li>
<li>Plant early or very late to avoid the main egg-laying season.</li>
<li>Plant borer tolerant cultivars.</li>
<li>Clean up debris around the garden in the fall to reduce areas where they can overwinter."</li>
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