All Discussions Tagged 'sump' - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-29T11:16:30Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=sump&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNeed Help Settling A Disagreement-Sump Tankstag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2016-09-20:4778851:Topic:6347262016-09-20T12:58:09.313ZDarlene Cerullohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DarleneCerullo
<p>Hello everyone! I recently finished Sylvia's Aquaponic Gardening book and feel empowered to make my own system. My goal is to eventually have an Urban Farm using Aquaponics, but I would like to start on a small scale first. I have about 500 SQFT of warehouse space at my disposal (lucky me!)</p>
<p>Our system will be a hybrid system--we will integrate media beds and DWC rafts. The water will be gravity fed from the fish tank to the media bed then to the DWC. Then at the end of the DWC there…</p>
<p>Hello everyone! I recently finished Sylvia's Aquaponic Gardening book and feel empowered to make my own system. My goal is to eventually have an Urban Farm using Aquaponics, but I would like to start on a small scale first. I have about 500 SQFT of warehouse space at my disposal (lucky me!)</p>
<p>Our system will be a hybrid system--we will integrate media beds and DWC rafts. The water will be gravity fed from the fish tank to the media bed then to the DWC. Then at the end of the DWC there will be a pump (or sump w/ a pump?) sending the water back to the fish tank. </p>
<p>My question is this: can we pump the water back into the fish tank using a pool pump or do we need to utilize a sump tank? I am of the belief that we need a sump tank, but my business partner does not agree! I need a very good argument for why we need a sump tank--any suggestions?? Thank you :)</p> Sump overflowstag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-09-07:4778851:Topic:5774602014-09-07T22:36:43.986ZDennis Brookshttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/DennisBrooks
I just added two more Flood and drain grow beds to my system and now it overflows my sump tank. The tank runs dry about 3 minutes befor the lower grow bed drain into it. Then it overfills the sump and I lose water. If I let the water just gravity feed through the beds my water level stays constant. But if I use my bell siphons in the two new grow beds it overflows the sump and then the sump runs dry before the lower grow bed starts its siphon. Any suggestions?
I just added two more Flood and drain grow beds to my system and now it overflows my sump tank. The tank runs dry about 3 minutes befor the lower grow bed drain into it. Then it overfills the sump and I lose water. If I let the water just gravity feed through the beds my water level stays constant. But if I use my bell siphons in the two new grow beds it overflows the sump and then the sump runs dry before the lower grow bed starts its siphon. Any suggestions? Another purpose for sump tank?tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-08-03:4778851:Topic:5736522014-08-03T15:09:23.943ZRonald Laohttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/RonaldLao
<p>Hello All,</p>
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<p>Greetings to all enthusiasts. I am designing my first aquaponics system using IBC as my fish tank containers as well as my sump. So far I have the design configured at 4 IBC fish tanks and 1 IBC sump operating on DWC beds. Sump is below ground level to provide insulation for better temp stability. Kinda hot where I am (Manila, Philippines) and I don't want to dicker with refrigeration systems for now.</p>
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<p>My question is... "Can we use the sump as dual…</p>
<p>Hello All,</p>
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<p>Greetings to all enthusiasts. I am designing my first aquaponics system using IBC as my fish tank containers as well as my sump. So far I have the design configured at 4 IBC fish tanks and 1 IBC sump operating on DWC beds. Sump is below ground level to provide insulation for better temp stability. Kinda hot where I am (Manila, Philippines) and I don't want to dicker with refrigeration systems for now.</p>
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<p>My question is... "Can we use the sump as dual purpose role for something else?" I just want to maximize my space use and a 1 cu meter sump tank seems like it can be used for something else. A few things come to mind like:</p>
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<li>in--tank moving bio filter</li>
<li>another bottom feeder type of fish tank</li>
<li>foot spa (okay maybe not....)</li>
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<p>Has anybody got first hand experience or opinion on this? I would appreciate the input.</p> Help!! Using an Indexing valve to increase growing area without adding a sump.tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2014-07-08:4778851:Topic:5704062014-07-08T19:09:43.057ZMathew Slatteryhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MathewSlattery
<p><span>I have a few 300 gallon </span><span>systems that are a bit too </span><span>overstocked with fish so they </span><span>are always on the borderline </span><span>of being out of balance. I </span><span>have been looking to add </span><span>additional beds but would </span><span>like to do so without having </span><span>to put in a sump.</span><br></br><br></br><span>It seems that indexing valves </span><span>are a good way to do this and </span><span>most of…</span></p>
<p><span>I have a few 300 gallon </span><span>systems that are a bit too </span><span>overstocked with fish so they </span><span>are always on the borderline </span><span>of being out of balance. I </span><span>have been looking to add </span><span>additional beds but would </span><span>like to do so without having </span><span>to put in a sump.</span><br/><br/><span>It seems that indexing valves </span><span>are a good way to do this and </span><span>most of the information comes from </span><span>TCLynx but she recommends not </span><span>using indexing valves with </span><span>auto syphons. As all of my </span><span>media systems use auto </span><span>syphons and I have not used </span><span>any other technique, I was </span><span>wondering if anyone can give </span><span>me some helpful tips on </span><span>alternate drainage methods, </span><span>using indexing valves with </span><span>syphons or other alternatives </span><span>to add more beds to my system </span><span>without using indexing valves.</span></p> My Huge PVC Hoophouse Build (Lots of pics chronological 1 month)tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2013-06-13:4778851:Topic:4851702013-06-13T08:24:43.729ZJason Finnhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JasonFinn
<p>Now that classes are done for the semester I have put most of my time toward my greenhouse and aquaponics set-up. I am posting some photos for comments and discussions for anyone interested. There are quite a few and they are in chronological order from my supplies being delivered to the area I chose to develop. <strong>All questions and any advice for me is more than welcomed!</strong></p>
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<p>If you do Instagram then follow me at <strong>dropthepress</strong> and let me know below…</p>
<p>Now that classes are done for the semester I have put most of my time toward my greenhouse and aquaponics set-up. I am posting some photos for comments and discussions for anyone interested. There are quite a few and they are in chronological order from my supplies being delivered to the area I chose to develop. <strong>All questions and any advice for me is more than welcomed!</strong></p>
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<p>If you do Instagram then follow me at <strong>dropthepress</strong> and let me know below so I can follow back.</p>
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<p>Here is the supply delivery:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656375125?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656375125?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>I got retaining wall bricks, cinder blocks and stepping stone tiles and it will be obvious how each was used:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656377531?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656377531?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>I consider this PHASE 1:</p>
<p>Here's a pic of the spot we are building on with my little brother taking a breather (we leveled the entire place with shovels and wheelbarrows or wagons):</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656380734?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656380734?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>Here is the same spot and time from the opposite angle:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656383841?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656383841?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>This is PHASE 2:</p>
<p>The retaining wall can be seen in the next pic and we are 80% done leveling or so:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656386237?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656386237?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>Other angle (bad pic):</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656388540?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656388540?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>PHASE 3:</p>
<p>Here is my Mother and my dog Cooper.</p>
<p>We started on the cinder block perimeter and brought down sand to level the tiles eventually:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656389997?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656389997?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>Other angle:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656390984?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656390984?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>PHASE 4:</p>
<p>Finally got all the lower cinder blocks in:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656393266?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656393266?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>Other angle:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656397545?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656397545?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a>PHASE 5:</p>
<p>Here's my brother again. The wall is laid out to its finished height (no mortar, will have cement in some of the holes in the cinder blocks) and the rebar for the PVC hoophouse is hammered in (about 1 foot or more deep each bar is almost 7 feet long). My little brother is 6' 2" so it might not look like it but each bar is nearly 6 feet tall after they were set into the ground:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656402203?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656402203?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>At this point we perfected the path that comes down to the greenhouse.</p>
<p>I used 3/4 inch PVC pipe at 20 foot lengths (they are bell shaped on one side which is the side I put to the ground). I connected 2 of the 20 foot PVC pipes together with cross joints and then we set each one onto the rebar on opposite ends. <strong>A video I found on youtube said not to use the cross joints because they crack but I think it is because that person used glue which we did not!</strong></p>
<p>You can see my friend Curtis in the background who was nice enough to help during three of these phases:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656404028?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656404028?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
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<p>Phase 6:</p>
<p>We finished most of the PVC structure. There is Curtis again. The apex of the hoops are 13.5 feet tall:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656405535?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656405535?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
<p>Phase 7:</p>
<p>The spine of the hoophouse is now put up, the tiles are in place and the growbeds are roughly placed. We put cement into each cinder block where a PVC pipe was in but the rest were filled with dirt and topped off with cement because it is only a 3 block high wall anyways (cutting corners!!).</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656407521?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656407521?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a></p>
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<p>This pic is from before the build when we got our IBCs:</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656407902?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656407902?profile=original" width="640"/></a></p>
<p>Here's my Mother again. This is a pic of our cistern to catch rainwater (no tap water with chlorine and fluoride for us!). We had this installed before the greenhouse so we can fill our system with rainwater.</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656411044?profile=original"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2656411044?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750"/></a>This is where we are so far and I will be posting further "phases" soon!</p>
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<p> Just out of curiosity, is my sump tank a consideration that needs to be taken when determining the size of my grow bed or is it just the fish tank size? also, on a side note, I made a great sketch of my system that I want to build on "google sketchup" but don't know how to put it on this site to show everyone. anyone know how this is done?</p>
<p> Just out of curiosity, is my sump tank a consideration that needs to be taken when determining the size of my grow bed or is it just the fish tank size? also, on a side note, I made a great sketch of my system that I want to build on "google sketchup" but don't know how to put it on this site to show everyone. anyone know how this is done?</p> Is a 3200 gph too much for a 100 to 200 gallon tank?tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-07-13:4778851:Topic:3623832012-07-13T22:04:14.300ZBrian Watsonhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/BrianWatson
<p>I am in the process of putting a system together that I designed (in my head that is). Also, I am in the process of trying to convince my wife that this is ideal for our family of 7 along with the greenhouse in which I use my worm castings to grow veggies as well. But I have one question: Is a 3200 gph summersible sump pump too much for a 100 to 200 gallon tank? Another question: Is a constant flow the best for someone like myself to use, or should I find a timer to do a 15 minutes on…</p>
<p>I am in the process of putting a system together that I designed (in my head that is). Also, I am in the process of trying to convince my wife that this is ideal for our family of 7 along with the greenhouse in which I use my worm castings to grow veggies as well. But I have one question: Is a 3200 gph summersible sump pump too much for a 100 to 200 gallon tank? Another question: Is a constant flow the best for someone like myself to use, or should I find a timer to do a 15 minutes on and 45 off routine? I am very intrigued in this and I am thinking about doing an experiment with my kids and possible with the local 4H with aquaponics, hydroponics, and farming with worm castings. Also, I ordered the Aquaponic Gardening from Amazon yesterday and should receive it next week. Any advice given is and will be greatly appreciated.</p> Advice on Poly Tank FT Requestedtag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-06-28:4778851:Topic:3560572012-06-28T01:51:07.308ZAquamaplehttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/MarkWrubel
I think I have found a fairly good deal on a 1550 gal horizontal poly tank. I was thinking I could cut out the top and maybe put hinges on it, and use the top portion as a lid. Is there any reason this would not make a good fish tank? In its previous life I think it was a maple sap storage tank. As a general rule we use food grade components in the production of maple syrup. I am waiting to hear if the seller will confirm it is food grade, but I expect it will be. Thanks for your input!
I think I have found a fairly good deal on a 1550 gal horizontal poly tank. I was thinking I could cut out the top and maybe put hinges on it, and use the top portion as a lid. Is there any reason this would not make a good fish tank? In its previous life I think it was a maple sap storage tank. As a general rule we use food grade components in the production of maple syrup. I am waiting to hear if the seller will confirm it is food grade, but I expect it will be. Thanks for your input! Aquaponics system Dorset UKtag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2012-03-13:4778851:Topic:3056932012-03-13T19:55:14.552ZTina Cresswellhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/TinaCresswell
<p>Hi we have set up in our poly tunnel, a 1300 litre fish tank, 50 organic carp, with five x 135 litre grow beds and a sump tank. We are ready to start the plumbing now, so we are making the autosyphons for each growbed and the pump will be in the 135 litre sump tank. So, the fish tank will overflow (do I need a ball valve here?) in to sump tank, the pump will send water up to Grow Bed no.1, (autosyphon drains into wider waste pipe going back to fish tank) then no.2, (autosyphon drains into…</p>
<p>Hi we have set up in our poly tunnel, a 1300 litre fish tank, 50 organic carp, with five x 135 litre grow beds and a sump tank. We are ready to start the plumbing now, so we are making the autosyphons for each growbed and the pump will be in the 135 litre sump tank. So, the fish tank will overflow (do I need a ball valve here?) in to sump tank, the pump will send water up to Grow Bed no.1, (autosyphon drains into wider waste pipe going back to fish tank) then no.2, (autosyphon drains into wider waste pipe going back to fish tank) then no3,(autosyphon drains into wider waste pipe going back to fish tank) then no4,(autosyphon drains into wider waste pipe going back to fish tank) then into the last one over the fish tank and autosyphon drains into wider waste pipe going back to fish tank with the waste pipe water from the other grow beds<img src="http://www.bkserv.net/images/Grin.gif"/>. Any advice re capacity of pump or can any one see any gremlins?</p>
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<p>Hope you can help!</p> Rule of thumb for sumps?tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2011-07-16:4778851:Topic:1546862011-07-16T21:51:23.621ZJon Baldwinhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JonBaldwin
<p>If I have about 185 gal fish tank [bottom portion of IBC], and am starting with two 75 gal grow beds (sans rock) [top 12 inches of IBC].</p>
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<p>Is there an equation to determine the correct size (how many gallons) my sump should be? </p>
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<p>I have on hand what should be a good 40 to 50 gallon basin I would like to use, but is it big enough?</p>
<p>If I have about 185 gal fish tank [bottom portion of IBC], and am starting with two 75 gal grow beds (sans rock) [top 12 inches of IBC].</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Is there an equation to determine the correct size (how many gallons) my sump should be? </p>
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<p>I have on hand what should be a good 40 to 50 gallon basin I would like to use, but is it big enough?</p>