How to handle Potasium/ Calcium supplimentation when Ph never goes below 7.4 - Aquaponic Gardening2024-03-28T20:05:27Zhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/how-to-handle-potasium-calcium-supplimentation-when-ph-never-goes?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A644196&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSo here is the link to the se…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-04:4778851:Comment:6666772019-02-04T17:15:55.853ZKurt Fischerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KurtFischer
<p>So here is the link to the second part about 4 minutes shows the fish and the heat exchanger </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/Uvlc3dsAfLw" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/Uvlc3dsAfLw</a></p>
<p>So here is the link to the second part about 4 minutes shows the fish and the heat exchanger </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/Uvlc3dsAfLw" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/Uvlc3dsAfLw</a></p> Hi Jeff, sounds like you're o…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-04:4778851:Comment:6665922019-02-04T16:14:53.837ZKurt Fischerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KurtFischer
<p>Hi Jeff, sounds like you're on the right track . I use ss for the heat exchanger in the fire box for durability,but as long as you aren't going to put it under the logs I guess copper is a lot easier .</p>
<p> I just shot and uploaded a video to YouTube check the comment under it I will upload part 2 soon talking about the heat exchanger/dehumidifier </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/CM5tSnI7Qg8" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/CM5tSnI7Qg8</a></p>
<p>Hi Jeff, sounds like you're on the right track . I use ss for the heat exchanger in the fire box for durability,but as long as you aren't going to put it under the logs I guess copper is a lot easier .</p>
<p> I just shot and uploaded a video to YouTube check the comment under it I will upload part 2 soon talking about the heat exchanger/dehumidifier </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/CM5tSnI7Qg8" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/CM5tSnI7Qg8</a></p> I can weld but definitely not…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-04:4778851:Comment:6668712019-02-04T14:47:59.203ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>I can weld but definitely not a welder. I drilled 2 holes in the side of the wood burner and installed a makeshift 3/8" copper tube heat exchange loop inside the heater. I run the water 32' to the fish tank through insulated pex where is goes through a SS coil in the tank. I use a recirculating pump for the transfer. It does work but I think I need to make the heat exchange tube larger so I can transfer more heat. That's 500 gallons of mass I can utilize when I get it right. Plus I can lower…</p>
<p>I can weld but definitely not a welder. I drilled 2 holes in the side of the wood burner and installed a makeshift 3/8" copper tube heat exchange loop inside the heater. I run the water 32' to the fish tank through insulated pex where is goes through a SS coil in the tank. I use a recirculating pump for the transfer. It does work but I think I need to make the heat exchange tube larger so I can transfer more heat. That's 500 gallons of mass I can utilize when I get it right. Plus I can lower my electric bill substantially by not having to just heat the water. The cost isn't really a factor since this is a hobby but seeing how efficiently I can make the system is all part of the fun.</p> I hear ya on the lack of sun…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-04:4778851:Comment:6666762019-02-04T12:28:57.852ZKurt Fischerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KurtFischer
<p>I hear ya on the lack of sun my pv s only gearaned 400 kw in each of the last 3 months as opposed to 1600 for july .Thankfully vts net metering program allows me to use the excess capacity from summer for up to a yr from generation. </p>
<p>I have built a few add on water heaters, water jackets are best but a few ft of steel pipe can generate some good heat. Do you weld?</p>
<p>I hear ya on the lack of sun my pv s only gearaned 400 kw in each of the last 3 months as opposed to 1600 for july .Thankfully vts net metering program allows me to use the excess capacity from summer for up to a yr from generation. </p>
<p>I have built a few add on water heaters, water jackets are best but a few ft of steel pipe can generate some good heat. Do you weld?</p> They are all different sizes.…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-04:4778851:Comment:6667782019-02-04T05:26:25.828ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>They are all different sizes. Must still be breeding cause there's some smaller ones in the mix. Haven't grown them out in a hurry because of the waste that would be generated. The greenhouse roof is double skinned. The walls are single with 2" foam in the winter, screened in the summer. I put a tarp up in the new 8' section while I was out of town last week and it seemed to block off the section with the wood heater since I wasn't there to burn it for 4 days and allowed the gas heater to…</p>
<p>They are all different sizes. Must still be breeding cause there's some smaller ones in the mix. Haven't grown them out in a hurry because of the waste that would be generated. The greenhouse roof is double skinned. The walls are single with 2" foam in the winter, screened in the summer. I put a tarp up in the new 8' section while I was out of town last week and it seemed to block off the section with the wood heater since I wasn't there to burn it for 4 days and allowed the gas heater to work better. I agree with your night cover. We don't get much sun here in he winter so I put up the foam on the sidewalls. </p>
<p>The wood heater is an old fireplace insert 27" w and 21" deep. The flat top on it made it easy to add the barrel. I should add a pic of that on my Facebook. </p> Wow that is a lot of fish! Ho…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-04:4778851:Comment:6666752019-02-04T01:29:35.662ZKurt Fischerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KurtFischer
<p>Wow that is a lot of fish! How big are the largest?</p>
<p> Thanks for the link, I checked them out looks like you're making the most of your yard!</p>
<p>is your greenhouse double skin? i saw a video on YouTube about a Greehouse in canada , the guy said he was saving a lot on heat after installing a mylar curtain that hung from cables and was closed at night.</p>
<p>mine has a 2-1/2" thick polyiso panel that gets pulled up to cover the glass at night and stays up on dark cloudy cold days .…</p>
<p>Wow that is a lot of fish! How big are the largest?</p>
<p> Thanks for the link, I checked them out looks like you're making the most of your yard!</p>
<p>is your greenhouse double skin? i saw a video on YouTube about a Greehouse in canada , the guy said he was saving a lot on heat after installing a mylar curtain that hung from cables and was closed at night.</p>
<p>mine has a 2-1/2" thick polyiso panel that gets pulled up to cover the glass at night and stays up on dark cloudy cold days . It uses less kw to light it than heat it with the panel down.</p>
<p>what are the dimensions or your fire box?<br/> <br/> <cite>Jeff S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/how-to-handle-potasium-calcium-supplimentation-when-ph-never-goes?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A666589&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment666590"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I too try to go with standard length lumber to dictate building size. The less I have to cut the better. My next modification to the heater is to enlarge the water tube in the wood heater to try to get more heat to transfer to the fish tank. I only have a 3'8" line running to the tank coil so I'm thinking if I make the heater line larger I can increase the flow rate and get more heat in the water. That would raise the temp of that 500 gallon mass therefor helping to maintain GH temps.</p>
<p>My last count of fish was around 1200 but that was 3 years ago. I only have a single 65 gallon radial flow filter an I placed polyfiber filters at the inlet points in the grow beds. I have re wigglers in the beds to eat/break down anything that gets through. I keep the feed rate low to minimize waste. My intention this winter is to harvest most of the fish. I really hate cleaning fish.</p>
<p>These are my Facebook pics. facebook.com/pg/GardenCityAquaponics/photos Most are labeled. Make of them what you will. I'm not a big Facebook person.</p>
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</blockquote> I too try to go with standard…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-03:4778851:Comment:6665902019-02-03T23:17:41.818ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>I too try to go with standard length lumber to dictate building size. The less I have to cut the better. My next modification to the heater is to enlarge the water tube in the wood heater to try to get more heat to transfer to the fish tank. I only have a 3'8" line running to the tank coil so I'm thinking if I make the heater line larger I can increase the flow rate and get more heat in the water. That would raise the temp of that 500 gallon mass therefor helping to maintain GH…</p>
<p>I too try to go with standard length lumber to dictate building size. The less I have to cut the better. My next modification to the heater is to enlarge the water tube in the wood heater to try to get more heat to transfer to the fish tank. I only have a 3'8" line running to the tank coil so I'm thinking if I make the heater line larger I can increase the flow rate and get more heat in the water. That would raise the temp of that 500 gallon mass therefor helping to maintain GH temps.</p>
<p>My last count of fish was around 1200 but that was 3 years ago. I only have a single 65 gallon radial flow filter an I placed polyfiber filters at the inlet points in the grow beds. I have re wigglers in the beds to eat/break down anything that gets through. I keep the feed rate low to minimize waste. My intention this winter is to harvest most of the fish. I really hate cleaning fish.</p>
<p>These are my Facebook pics. facebook.com/pg/GardenCityAquaponics/photos Most are labeled. Make of them what you will. I'm not a big Facebook person.</p>
<p> </p> Your wood burner retrofit wa…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-03:4778851:Comment:6666742019-02-03T22:54:32.472ZKurt Fischerhttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/KurtFischer
<p> Your wood burner retrofit was an Excelent idea I have a old 120 gal watertank over my wood fired boiler in my shop it lays horizontal with the inflow near the top and outflow near the bottom, they work great!</p>
<p>I am Guilty as charged on the doing a lot of research,but there was plenty of reengineering and design changes originally I was designing a regular greenhouse/solar building when I first learned about the Aquaponics systems. I did see some of the work at Bigelow brook farms and…</p>
<p> Your wood burner retrofit was an Excelent idea I have a old 120 gal watertank over my wood fired boiler in my shop it lays horizontal with the inflow near the top and outflow near the bottom, they work great!</p>
<p>I am Guilty as charged on the doing a lot of research,but there was plenty of reengineering and design changes originally I was designing a regular greenhouse/solar building when I first learned about the Aquaponics systems. I did see some of the work at Bigelow brook farms and many others including Friendly Aquaponics in Hawaii and many studies like the u of Virgin Islands , Arizona and Calgary.</p>
<p>A lot of my design resulted from having a pile of 30' long and 12' long 12" x 4" I beams from the Fire station dictating the size . I also had 3 275 gallon used oil tanks that came out of relatives houses that I wanted to use they went from being the fish tanks , then after seeing the design concept of cornelius drain fish culture tanks goal being not only keeping the bottom clean but also to get the solids out before they get broken into smaller parts , making them harder to remove,but not having room for round tanks I had to get creative to achieve the same result in a different shape. So the oil tanks ended up being the grow tanks.<a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/954344898?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/954344898?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/954350214?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/954350214?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a>how do you deal with removing solids? How many fish do you have?</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Jeff S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/topics/how-to-handle-potasium-calcium-supplimentation-when-ph-never-goes?commentId=4778851%3AComment%3A666589&xg_source=msg_com_forum#4778851Comment666589"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><br/> Just a side note, the V bottom in your tank is cool but my IBC tank bottom stays pretty clean too. Everyone says a round tank is better to circulate solids but my rectangular tank works fine. Might be that it's overstocked and the fish keep the solids moving around so they don't build up. Are you familiar with Bigelow Brook Farms on YouTube. He has just built a new greenhouse setup and has created some cool stuff. Built a geodome before that. <br/><br/></p>
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</blockquote> Just a side note, the V bott…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-03:4778851:Comment:6665892019-02-03T19:13:26.927ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p><br></br> Just a side note, the V bottom in your tank is cool but my IBC tank bottom stays pretty clean too. Everyone says a round tank is better to circulate solids but my rectangular tank works fine. Might be that it's overstocked and the fish keep the solids moving around so they don't build up. Are you familiar with Bigelow Brook Farms on YouTube. He has just built a new greenhouse setup and has created some cool stuff. Built a geodome before that. …<br></br><br></br></p>
<p><br/> Just a side note, the V bottom in your tank is cool but my IBC tank bottom stays pretty clean too. Everyone says a round tank is better to circulate solids but my rectangular tank works fine. Might be that it's overstocked and the fish keep the solids moving around so they don't build up. Are you familiar with Bigelow Brook Farms on YouTube. He has just built a new greenhouse setup and has created some cool stuff. Built a geodome before that. <br/><br/></p>
<blockquote cite="http://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/forum/comment/show?id=4778851%3AComment%3A666777&xn_out=json&firstPage=0&lastPage=1&xg_token=1452e21877a6911c139162225e0d02f0&_=1549220721324#4778851Comment666777"></blockquote> You obviously did your homewo…tag:aquaponicgardening.ning.com,2019-02-03:4778851:Comment:6667772019-02-03T19:05:20.010ZJeff Shttps://aquaponicgardening.ning.com/profile/JeffSullivan
<p>You obviously did your homework before you started. Problem is you've done all the right stuff upnfront so you're going to miss out on the re-engineering part of this hobby LOL. I took the other route and tried to build on the cheap using IBCs and various tanks. Would have been a lot easier to just buy what I needed up front but then I'd have missed all the "fun". You've re-cycled your entire system but in a much bigger way. If I could do it all again it would be a lot different for sure.…</p>
<p>You obviously did your homework before you started. Problem is you've done all the right stuff upnfront so you're going to miss out on the re-engineering part of this hobby LOL. I took the other route and tried to build on the cheap using IBCs and various tanks. Would have been a lot easier to just buy what I needed up front but then I'd have missed all the "fun". You've re-cycled your entire system but in a much bigger way. If I could do it all again it would be a lot different for sure. But I like taking on new little projects and adding to my system. My latest endeavor was adding a barrel to the top of my wood heater to capture more of the heat. Problem with that was I did it during this last polar vortex and was down for the coldest day. Fortunately all went well and was only down for a day. Major improvement.</p>
<p>I'd be interested in seeing your system details. I'll work on getting some pics too.</p>